Please find and read a news/opinion article on
High Expectations for Teens Post a reply with the following information:
further thoughts about the subject, Etc.) Then respond to two other students after you have read the article and again provide intelligent comments. 1st post = 200 words 2nd post = 100 words 3rd post = 100 words If they don't have the word count I will deduct points. Also you need to spell check and proofread better.
Stacy
3/10/2015 05:26:32 am
http://fatherhood.about.com/od/succeedingasafather/a/high_expectations.htm
Koty
3/11/2015 01:11:30 am
Stacy I agree with you on some of your response but, what about the people who cant do what some people say they can and then you give them higher expectations. Then they get mad and say screw it then just not try anymore. This right here is why I think that teachers and parents or adults should loosen up on some people so that they can achieve their goals. I think that people should make their own high expectations so that no one gives up. I don’t think that people should put expectations high for someone who is trying but can’t succeed.
Tabitha McCoard
3/12/2015 11:22:43 am
Stacy, I agree with you on the fact that high expectations aren’t always a good thing. It depends on the kid, how they were raised, what conditions they live in, the list goes on. I know some people who when they don’t get an A or better on an assignment or test will almost have a mental break down in class. It’s not because their parents will hate them if they get a bad grade but the kid expects more of them selves and that’s how they were raised. They were raised to live up to high expectations and if they don’t they panic. Every child is different and should only be expected to do what they can do not what some one else can do.
Ryan
3/13/2015 05:17:48 am
Stacy, I agree with some of the things you said in your response. Like the quote you included, "High expectations move children forward, even if they don't always succeed." Sometimes though, pressure can build up to the point that it doesn't help them move forward, it just makes them go backwards. It is a great quote though, because it does help people move forward. If a person has no expectations or low expectations they will never get anywhere in life, because nobody if pushing you to get better. All in all I think that your response to this DQ was a very good one.
Mahala
3/13/2015 12:33:25 pm
Stacy, I agree with your perception of this article. I agree with your thoughts about how high expectations for children are a good thing and I had similar thoughts in my article. The only thing that I am kind of confused about is how you said, “ when kids fail at something because the expectation is too high, yes sometimes parents lower the expectation and work up from a lower expectation to a higher one.” But other than that I completely agree with your thoughts on the article and believe that you did a really good job at describing what the article meant.
David Livingston
3/13/2015 04:27:44 pm
Stacy, I agree with what you said about how high expectations can move people forward, even if they don’t live up to them. We all know what it’s like to not meet an expectation of some sort, but life is not about dwelling on what you did not do; it is about seeking out what you can do to better it, and better yourself in life, and in your work. One of the best ways to be happy in life is to learn from your previous mistakes, and use that to set even higher goals and expectations from yourself, making you chase after them with more passion.
"Be sure to praise your teenager when he/she accomplishes his/her responsibilities. A simple hug and a “good job” will go a long way"
Dakota
3/11/2015 01:05:11 am
Johnathan
Gilbert
3/11/2015 05:23:46 am
John I agree with you to the fullest point. I agree with you the most on the first part because your parents and teachers need to get on the same page is what I got from you and I fully agree and support you until you succeed and get a good job or thank you.
Devon Caruso
3/12/2015 11:39:47 am
John I agree with you completely. I think that teens need this kind of approval so they know that they are doing a good job. Without assurance like this teens don’t know if they are doing good or bad. But when they get compliments like this they know they’ve done well and they will know what they need to do exactly to succeed in everything they do. I also think you are correct about when work isn’t good how teachers jump all over you but when work is good they don’t say a thing. This would be a nice this to change in my opinion. All in all I liked you article john and I completely agree with you keep up the good work.
Chance R.
3/12/2015 11:51:24 am
Jonathan, I completely agree with your post. This post is probably the best one. I feel that you really truly were able to express the feeling of the general populace of teenagers. It is true that if I was told “Good Job!” for everything I did, I wouldn’t be so hard on myself. It’s the little things that will get a teenager even if an adult doesn’t realize it. Like you said, even the little things go a long way in the mind of a teenager. Scratch that, almost anyone. If you were to say good job to anyone, they would feel good about themselves. So John, I want to thank you for being able to put this out there. I don’t think I would’ve been able to explain this as well as you did.
Brandon Bartels
3/12/2015 02:23:45 pm
John, I like how you opened your initial response with a quote. It makes it very easy to understand what you are trying to say and are referring to. Both of your quotes are very simple and important for adults to remember and enforce. I also agree that teachers seem to focus on the students that don’t do work and not focus on more responsible students. On the second quote, I disagree with your statement that adults struggle with respecting teenagers. Although you did have a good example to back up your argument, it sounds like you used your parents to judge a much larger group of people. I have never had any trouble being respected by people that I respect.
Ryan
3/13/2015 07:38:57 am
John, I completely agree with pretty much everything you had to say in your response to this dq. Both of the quotes you had were very good quotes that I completely agree with! A little praise for doing something good is nice once in a while. I also agree with what you said about teachers not giving enough praise to those who turn in their assignments on time and complete, but when we dont have our assignments done they are ready to yell at us right away. All in all I completely agree with what youbsaid in your response to this dq.
Connor
3/13/2015 07:45:43 am
John, I completely agree with you on this DQ. I definitely agree that parents and teachers don't give us the respect we deserve when we do something right. But as soon as we do something wrong, they're all over it. I will treat people with as much respect as they give me.
David Livingston
3/13/2015 04:31:37 pm
John, I disagree with your statements about the matter of expectations, goals and expectations are not made to be impossible, the examples you give are not impossible, they are completely realistic; they just require time, and effort. When someone talks to you about moving out, or being successful, or getting a job, they are talking to you about the future and that right now, they want you to be preparing for the times when you do go out to get those, and they want you to be prepared for the challenges in life. It is not stupid, but it takes some thought into understanding what they want, and understanding that it is for your benefit.
Dakota
3/11/2015 12:57:29 am
This article relates to our class by saying that parents and teachers have such high expectations for this class that some people like me are just overwhelmed. Usually when I get this way I usually start getting angry so I say screw it and I just walk away and not do it. I guess what I am trying to say is that when teens get overwhelmed they give up instead of trying to get the job done. I also think that not every teen is this way some teens are able to pull through all the hardships and the expectations to do their school work to the best of their ability. I think that parents and teachers and things like these two things should just loosen up on some of the students that are failing. I feel that if this was done then the students would try harder to keep caught up in their classes. People that have high expectations are most likely to succeed is what I think because they get pushed further than others
Stacy
3/12/2015 05:21:08 am
Dakota I agree when you say that kids gets overwhelmed sometimes when the expectations are to high. Like in this class sometimes I don't understand it and I need her to explain more but everyone else gets it so I just act like I understand. Then sometimes I really do get it. But I agree that parents and teachers sometimes have too high of standards.
Brandon Bartels
3/12/2015 02:32:47 pm
Dakota, I agree that expectations can be difficult to live up to sometimes, and that it can be frustrating when they are set too high. You said that some people get overwhelmed, but I can almost guarantee that everyone gets overwhelmed sometimes. This is because students that perform at a higher level are held to higher (and sometimes ridiculous) expectations. I think that your right when you say that teachers shouldn’t be too hard on failing students, but loosening up on them might not be the best solution. Instead, I think that struggling students should be rewarded for their successes to keep them motivated and focused on maintaining good grades.
Gilbert
3/13/2015 06:01:44 am
Koty I completely agree with you on that. when students get over welmed they just give up no matter what it is. They just say screw it like you said you do when you get over welmed. that's what I usually do also when I get over welmed and I also get very angy. Koty you couldn't be any more right.
Mahala
3/13/2015 12:49:22 pm
Dakota, I disagree with most of what you have said. Your article suggests that parents with high expectations for their children are, in fact, a good thing as long as you have a good relationship with that child. I think kids who say; “screw it” are not being pushed enough and have the consequences necessary when those said kids are either being lazy and not doing their work or not getting what they are supposed to do. I mean I do agree with you when you say that when teachers get mad at you for not understanding, it can makes you mad and not want to try, but I think that someone with a good incentive should work hard to understand what they don’t get. I mean be for real, no matter who you are, there is always something that you don’t get and parents who push their kids to succeed should have raised them to want to get what they don’t get. For the high expectations I am going to use the Togan people. They are the wealthy island culture. When the kids go to school and graduate they had to stay and watch the babies and young kids of their sisters, brothers and cousins. After all their siblings that are older are out of college then the next generation of family can go to college. Which is really weird to me but that’s how life is out of the United States. For the greatest success for school and high expectations is that the family is really supportive of the student no matter if she or he is in college or high school. Its all the same if you want your kids to do well you need to support them the best you can. But on some occasions the kids don’t have great role models and it is a bad thing to expect high expectations. Pressure to perform where pressure to perform is the dominate message coming from the parents.
David
3/12/2015 08:30:16 am
http://parentingteens.about.com/od/agesandstages/a/responsibility.htm
Tabitha McCoard
3/12/2015 11:36:09 am
David, I agree that we as teens do have a lot of responsibilities; we just have to choose to do them before we can be successful. If we can’t handle our responsibilities then we should do what we can and maybe try not to have so many responsibilities. We can share responsibilities if we need to but most of the time we don’t we just chose not to do them and we fall on our swords.
Devon Caruso
3/12/2015 11:45:54 am
David I completely agree with your statement and I love your article. I agree that teens need to juggle lots of responsibilities, especially athletes and people in extracurricular activities. They have so many things that they need to keep up on in order to succeed. If they drop anything then they will fail and their parents will not be happy with them. I also agree that we need to constantly be looking at our schedule to make sure we know what is going on. If we don’t then life could be a huge mess with lots of failures and disappointed people. You explained all of this stuff very well keep up the good work
Chance R.
3/12/2015 11:57:23 am
David, I completely agree with your statement. There are a ton of things teens have to juggle. This is the time of our lives where we discover who we are. So all the tests and stuff they throw at us, stunt our “growth”. I also understand what you mean by having to do things right the first time. We are teenagers and humans. So we have the right to make mistakes. There is a lot on the plate of a teenager, and I have a feeling adults do know that. It is harder for them to realize though because they didn’t have the requirements we do now.
Tabitha McCoard
3/12/2015 11:07:14 am
I think that this article speaks the truth. If parents and teachers don’t set high but achievable expectations then there students or children will either fail or only meet the expectations that are given. I experience first hand how high expectations can effect school and then life. I am expected to get good grades on most every thing and if I don’t then I am expected to study and do every possible extra credit option there is to get my grade back up. If I don’t get my grade back up and I didn’t do everything possible to get it back up then I am punished, for example I couldn’t have dinner until I finished this DQ. If I wasn’t held to high expectations then I would probable be failing most of my classes.
Devon Caruso
3/12/2015 11:31:41 am
My article is from http://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/pressure-to-perform-high-expectations-from-teens-wealthy-parents/. This article relates to class because it talks about how teens are under pressure to succeed greatly. These expectations come from not only parents but teachers and coaches as well. In this article is states that teens with parents whose income is above a combined $160,000 a year are under more pressure than kids who parents make less than this combined total. Studies show that with parents having more money they expect more out of their kids because they have access to all of the things that they need to succeed. This can put severe stress on this teens. It can push them to a deep depression and even to eating disorders. It can even push them to the abuse of any type of medications or to harm themselves. I think that this can be kind of true because these kids are being put under more pressure than average kids. Especially since their parents have higher incomes they will expect more out of them then other kids. I also agree that it could push these kids over the edge to do harm to themselves or to even do drugs. I don’t believe it can cause eating disorders but I do believe it can send them into depression because if they don’t succeed like they are expected to then their parents could be upset and make them feel bad where the teens feel like they have failed. This can make them depressed. This relates to me because my parents put me under pressure to succeed. I don’t have any of these symptoms of being under heavy pressure though. This may be because I haven’t done anything majorly wrong to make my parents disappointed in my success in what I do.
Ashton Halverson
3/12/2015 12:53:38 pm
Devon, I agree with your article because teens around the world fell the pressure from like you said the coaches, parents, and teachers to succeed in greatly in the things you do but they need to realize that we are human and we make mistakes and that there is going to be that bump in the road that gets us off track, but eventually we will get back on track. The other day I saw on the news that these parents were taking their kids to these $4,500 camps and expecting them to go and enjoy them but the kids didn’t even have the slightest interest in the sport. Parents were expecting them to like that sport and go excel to their greatest potential in the sport they didn’t even like.
Chance R.
3/12/2015 11:45:16 am
This article is very relevant to class in the matter of how high expectations are now. There is no down time what so ever for students. We have to many requirements to meet now within the state. What is hard to is that we are turning into adults. This causes us to have to morph as we work. This can be stressful for many students. This article applies to my life in several ways. I have always felt a little over pressured by the standards and requirements set in by the state. I wish that we had about half to three-fourths of the current testing we do now. It also applies in the sense that I wish I had more down time. I have a good chunk for being a high school student, but I wish I had more time. It’s hard to because my mom goes to college and my stepdad goes to work every day. So there is a fair amount of chores for both me and my sibling to do, then on top of that I have to do homework and study for giant state tests. I hope that not to many people suffer depression because of what we are required to do, but I know there are people who do. I feel that if they were to remove some of those tests there would be less stress in class.
Chance R.
3/12/2015 11:46:30 am
My website URL didn't copy down like I thought it did, so here it is:
Ashton Halverson
3/12/2015 12:45:30 pm
Chance, I agree with you 100% on this article. The "new" generation has changed so much and requires us with these new improved tests. Requirements from the State and the Teachers has been getting, well higher than it has been for us teens; like you said there is no down time for us because of tests, homework, and club requirements we need to get done in a certain amount of time. Also parents take a big part in that role and pressure us teens into getting more involved in to sports, clubs, and the community which is not a bad thing to do it's just that sometimes it’s a little too much. But I guess it's the "new" generation thing now.
Ashton Halverson
3/12/2015 01:35:07 pm
URL of my article is at http://www.teenink.com/hot_topics/what_matters/article/496767/Expectations/
Brandon Bartels
3/12/2015 02:10:34 pm
The article I found was about how parent’s expectations affect teenagers learning abilities. It said that when parents have high expectations for their children, then the children will perform at those expectations, or at least the best they can, but if parents have low expectations, then their children will limit themselves to those expectations. I think this is an accurate statement. My parents expect me to do well in school and always try my hardest, and my grades are almost always A’s or near the top of the class. The article gave an example where a kid had parents who were not successful at all and expected him to fail classes, so he failed classes. I also have high expectations for myself, so I work hard to live up to both my parents and my own expectations. The article said that even if someone doesn’t succeed in reaching expectations, they will still be improving because of the goals set. I disagree with this because if a goal seems achievable and you fail, you will usually be discouraged. I know that some people will just accept that they didn’t do perfect, but I’m used to setting achievable goals and meeting people’s expectations, so not performing at their standards is really upsetting. Because of this, I often feel pressured to meet some of my friends’ expectations, even when I think they are set too high.
Hogan
3/13/2015 05:56:00 am
Brandon I disagree with you and agree with your article. I think that if you set a high goal and fail that you can still be discouraged but at the same time be better than if you would have set a lame goal. I think that we have kind of the same problem though. I think that when a friend sets a goal I have to achieve it or over achieve it. I want to do better than other people so badly sometimes it gets me in trouble. I feel I need to be at the top the whole time.
Ryan
3/13/2015 05:07:39 am
According to this article a household with a high income puts more pressure on their kids to perform at a high level in everything they do. Some of the things they are expected to do extremely well in are their academics, after school activities, and accomplishments. Some of these after school activities are sports, music, and any sort of art that is meant to be fun. On top of all this pressure to succeed they also have even more pressure to succeed as social figure. Some of this pressure leads to a large amount of distress, which leads to depression, anxiety, stress, eating disorders, substance abuse, and other self-harming behaviors.
Hogan
3/13/2015 05:50:16 am
Ryan I agree one hundred percent with your post. I think my parents are just like yours. Mine pressure me to get good grades and do well too. I think this is a good thing though because if my parents were just like “I don’t care what happens in school” then I would not be as well prepared for college or what lies beyond. At the same time it can be a little frustrating when you are really trying hard but your parents say to try harder. Most of the time I can appreciate my parents pushing me but sometimes they get on my nerves.
Oscar M.
3/13/2015 05:57:42 am
Ryan, I agree with you when you said that only rich families have these pressures. I agree that rich kids might have a lot of pressure but that doesn’t mean poor kids don’t either. Just like rich kids, poor kids also have responsibilities and issues. I felt like the article should have talked more about poor kid problems as well. I also relate to you on when you talked about sports. My family also has a lot of pressure on me to be successful in sports. It doesn’t get distracting with me though because I learned on how to deal with it.
Connor
3/13/2015 08:03:54 am
Ryan, I completely agree with you on this DQ. Some parents try and put too much pressure on their kids when it comes to school and grades. Too much pressure, and expecting too much CAN lead to the things that you discussed in your DQ. I also think that just because a family is richer, doesn't mean they expect more from their child.
seth
3/13/2015 05:19:14 am
Parents can affect the success of teens in life. If the parents are really crappy and abuse the kid. The kid isn’t going to care about there grades. Then the parent is basically failing the kid. If you are a parent and don’t have a good job, tell your kid to get a better job than them. Make sure to talk about getting a good education. If your kid has a Learning Disability set good goals for them. Don’t make them out of reach. Make a decent goal. Then you can give them a good award. Like buy them a new phone or something. Then they will strive to achieve those goals. If your child chooses not to achieve those goals you can simply just hold them back for a year. If the teen sets high goals, you should be proud of them. They want to succeed. If your kid struggles in school, you should talk to the teacher or the principal. You can also talk to the school counselor; they should be able to help the struggling student. This would help the student a lot. It would give them confidence. They would believe in themselves. I wish we could have Mr. Knebel and Mrs. Smith as councilors.
spencer
3/13/2015 12:30:57 pm
Seth, a lot of what you talked about in your DQ was good, but I don’t agree with everything you said. One thing in particular is the part where you said “If the parents are really crappy and abuse the kid. The kid is not going to care about their grades”. There are many people that have gone through really ruff things in their child hood but have ended up being very success full. A few examples I found were Darren Hayes, Missy Elliott, Rebecca Gibney, and Christina Aguilera. On the flip side there are several people that have had great child hoods but have not been very successful in life.
Hogan
3/13/2015 05:41:33 am
http://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/pressure-to-perform-high-expectations-from-teens-wealthy-parents/
Oscar M.
3/13/2015 06:12:23 am
Hogan, I agree with you because I am very completive like you as well. I like to brag to most of my friends the ones that can take it. I do this because I don’t do very well in school and sports is something that I do succeed in. I think that this article represents most classes in America because a lot of students that I know have these problems. This article is very insightful because the stress level in most students is very high. I am glad that I do not have it as bad as the people that you mentioned.
Oscar M.
3/13/2015 05:46:28 am
http://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/pressure-to-perform-high-expectations-from-teens-wealthy-parents/
Connor
3/13/2015 07:58:57 am
http://fatherhood.about.com/od/succeedingasafather/a/high_expectations.htm
Spencer
3/13/2015 12:10:41 pm
Connor, I agree with a lot of what you said. I did the same exact article and I had a very similar response. I also like how you addressed how teachers and parents sometimes get annoyed at you for doing something wrong, but they do nothing if we do something well. I some time catch myself doing this like in PE or some other activity. Even Mrs. Miller admitted to doing this on occasion which is why she gave us the free day if we did not have any missing assignments, a C- or higher, and passed the letter test.
In this article “Setting Appropriately High Expectations for Children” it talks about the debate between whether parents should set very high expectations for their children and risk them failing or set very low expectations and make them feel successful. I personally think that high expectations are a good thing as long as they are practical for their skill and age. Wayne Parker, the author of the article, has a similar thought which he shows when he said “high but realistic expectations are essential to raising successful children”. It also says that parents need to be clear in describing expectations, focus on the short term, recognize successes, learn from setbacks, and to be willing to adjust to changing circumstances. This concept can be related to our class because Mrs. Miller should have high expectations for us, but it has to be something that is doable. I try to have high expectations for me in my own life, and even if I fail to meet that high expectation I will have learned better for next time. Like JK Rowling said “It is impossible to live without failing at something, unless you live so cautiously that you might as well not have lived at all – In which case, you fail by default.”
Jacob
3/13/2015 03:41:26 pm
Spencer, I completely agree with the part where you say that you feel that parents should set very high expectations for their children and risk them failing. I do also think that the expectations should be practical for their skill and age. That would make sense because if you have a goal that would be like for me to be getting straight A’s. My parents do help set high goals for me, but they set reasonable expectations for me.
Mahala
3/13/2015 12:13:06 pm
http://fatherhood.about.com/od/succeedingasafather/a/high_expectations.htm
Jaocb
3/13/2015 03:36:28 pm
Mahala, I completely disagree with the part where you said that the parents of most students in our class set the goals for the students. I think that with all the career classes and NAV especially, that the students do all of the goal setting. I think that my parents only give me suggestions about what they would like to see form me but then I adjust the goal to how I would like it.
Jacob
3/13/2015 03:30:19 pm
http://m.union-bulletin.com/news/2015/mar/07/pirates-place-sixth-1b-state/ My article is about our basketball team growing. This relates to class because our group that will be on the court next year will have lots of pressure do to how well we have done in the past years. We have lots of expectations for the varsity players next year to keep what the seniors this year have started. In this article our coach Brian Koller said that we will have a good product out on the court next year. We also have seen in other articles that in the Curlew game the freshman won the game. I feel that we were a great part in that game, but I was just very happy to get the opportunity to be there and the seniors gave me that. Our coach also expressed optimism about the future in light of results chalked up by Pomeroy’s junior varsity and freshman teams this past year. The Pirates’ jayvee went 19-1 while the frosh went undefeated in 20 starts. Our group has lots of expectations like I said before to go to state next year and then to continue that as long as we are playing. I feel lots of pressure to keep the trend going, but I feel that we can and will do that. Comments are closed.
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